This seems rather contrary to Catholicism in which believers are to discern through prayer the will of God for ones own life. Hugh Barbour: Its a good way to start. Astrology can induce fatalism that destroys peoples confidence in their power of choice. Fr. By consulting a horoscope to show ourselves our path in life, we usurp the place of God in whose hands we should place our concerns allowing Him to lead us down the path of holiness in discerning his will for us. is an excellent summary on the danger of occult knowledge. The Catholic Church teaches against the use of horoscopes and other such fortune-telling practices such as astrology, palm reading, clairvoyance, ouija boards, and mediums because they attempt to take the place of God. Subscriber Service CenterAlready a subscriber? The other guys [crosstalk 00:16:09]. hope you are well now!!!!!!! Fr. Hugh Barbour: We can only presume two conclusions either this person is (1) a charlatan who has no relationship to God and is interested in humiliating his marks, or (2) hes both crazy and ignorant of God and his own abilities.. But humans, theres an individual providence for each one of them, that we dont exist just simply for the whole human race. It was better science. Its a wide, smooth road leading to misery and waste. Astrology had support in early Christianity, but support declined during the Middle Ages. Templeton says Shall we now consult demons to know the future? Well do things that are interesting to us and to our advantage. [28] Astrologers were theorists, researchers, and social engineers, as well as providing individual advice to everyone from monarchs downwards. As for the human soul, the Catholic Church teaches that it is eternal, immortal in countless places throughout the Catechism . EIN 27-4581132 These bring power and strength to those people. They can tell because they can see by the maps how far south could judge. Copyright 2023 Relevant Radio - All Rights Reserved, https://relevantradio.com/wp-content/uploads/2021/07/astrology.mp3. Fr. My grandmother always told me to stay away from routine tellers etc.. so I did. Nor is it to be wondered at, for they are not prophets; but, by long practice, the authors of errors find a sort of refuge in those things by which they were deceived, and introduce certain climacteric periods, that they may pretend a knowledge of uncertain things. Fr. One proposition I lay down: that those angels, the deserters of God [demons] . Father, Im disturbed about something. And then, theres Blessed Dorothy, was a widow who lived in a cell by the church, lived a recluse life. But the early Christians, like the early Jews, were vehemently opposed to astrology, even attributing it to demonic origin. Cy Kellett: Astrology has long been regarded as an evil. . Were saying the same thing, but [crosstalk 00:00:02:04]. Tune in to The Patrick Madrid Show weekdays at 8am CT, National Headquarters Mailing Address It was just as scientific in the sense of being limited to the realm of matter, the material causes than as is modern science. To be clear, fortunetelling isnt the same as prophesizing but the man or women who is asking you for outrageous amount of money has nothing to do with God and should be avoided (CCC 2115). If you look at astrology stuff nowadays, especially online, youre going to get things linked to all kinds of stuff thats unacceptable that does try to foretell the future, or even told that you can click now and talk to an online psychic for a price. Its just very few of them make it to the calendar where theyre fixed there, but there are tons, believe me. I hope what I`m about to write will help. According to the Catechism of the Catholic Church, reading horoscopes, along with practicing astrology, attempting to interpret omens, and consulting mediums or psychics "all conceal a desire for power over time, history, and in the final analysis, other human beings.". The Catholic Church does not accept the teachings of astrology, mediums etc it warns us to stay away for a reason. According to the Merriam-Webster dictionary, astrology is the divination of the supposed influences of the stars and planets on human affairs and terrestrial events by their positions and aspects. At its core, it is the belief that the position of the stars and the planets at the time and date of your birth can influence your personality, choices, attitude, and path through life. Hugh Barbour: [20], Martin Luther denounced astrology in his Table Talk. Demons or devils are spiritual persons. Thanks so much for listening. Thank you, Father. The lady who tried to hold power over me got so made when I told her that I didnt need to see her anymore more. I am fully protected and god has my back. [30] One English almanac compiler, Richard Saunders, followed the spirit of the age by printing a derisive Discourse on the Invalidity of Astrology, while in France Pierre Bayle's Dictionnaire of 1697 stated that the subject was puerile. Astrology teaches that were not responsible for our actions and our fate. Thats just you believe it, or you dont. The Catholic Church teaches that reading, consulting and drawing horoscopes, interpreting omens and consulting mediums or psychics "all conceal a desire for power over time, history, and in the. [24] Hood's instruments also illustrated, for pedagogical purposes, the supposed relationships between the signs of the zodiac, the planets, and the parts of the human body adherents believed were governed by the planets and signs. Hugh Barbour: There is no harm in learning what sign you might fall into or what months correspond to others, but it becomes dangerous when you begin changing aspects of your life based on the direction of superstitions like astrology, horoscopes, or tarot cards. We need the financial support. All right, Nick needs to feed his family. Youre not supposed to, but because-. Its a wide, smooth road leading to misery, humiliation, waste and being separated from God. Also suggest something for the future. based upon visible signs in the present, you can predict whats going to happen in the future. But if you said, Well, why dont you look in the readings and martyrology and pray to the saints who were venerated that day, and then look at the readings and ask for the insight you need in order to perform your duties, and love those around, you and stay on the right path as best you can?. His providence watches over and guides everything: "No creature is invisible before Him: all are bare and uncovered to His eyes" (Hebrews 4:13). all astrologers have integrity. Horoscopes do offer advice. Knowledge can be abused. The Big Bang happened 13.4 billion years ago and God knows the position and disposition of every quark and photon in the entire universe ever but if you cough up $500, Maggy the Psychic at the Turnpike Mall can read minds, palms an even talk to your dead dog. In addition, hes written an instructional book for catechists which uses stage magic as a teaching tool for children and young adults entitled The Catechist's Magic Kit (Crossroad). I think these psychic businesses should all be shut down. Fr. Paul rebuked a man who was a fortune teller (Acts 16:16-18). [22], Ephemerides with complex astrological calculations, and almanacs interpreting celestial events for use in medicine and for choosing times to plant crops, were popular in Elizabethan England. And then, there is Blessed John the Carthusian who wrote the rule for the Carthusian nuns. Lastly, to believe in the stars, or to trust thereon, or to be affrighted thereat, is idolatry, and against the first commandment. You just explained this perfectly. A virgin who promoted the veneration of St. John the Baptist, the precursor. It has a tendency to take over the lives of people who get involved in it and become a religion. Order Bulk SubscriptionsGet a discount on 6 or more copies sent to your parish, organization For you are lights, he [Paul] says, shining in the midst of the world [Phil. The spiritual dimension of our world is real, and it is not to be taken lightly. may be much more free from passion, because anything that limits freedom, of course, is to be avoided. Thats based upon the natural sense that the human body is a microcosm, is a little universe, microcosmos, is reflective of the macrocosmos, the big universe, which is relates to the body. That is your eternal happiness, which is what When people look at their astrology column, what are they looking for? A surprising look at astrology, next with Father Hugh. Christianity explains why we know we have purpose and shows us how to find it. This is hardly compatible with Catholic teaching. God can make you a saint. Information regarding the position of the planets and stars at the precise moment of a persons birth was believed to influence ones personality and was used to determine the future even before Christianity. It is true that astrology is an imperfect discipline and not And then, St. William in the Campagna of Spain, who was a pilgrim first for the love of Christ, and then entered the monastery of Montevergine, which is very important to this day. These people are either destroy themselves or will return Christ one or the other. The Catholic View on Astrology, Tarot Cards, Horoscopes and more.FOLLOW US: Our YouTubeBlog ArticlesFacebook Page hereInstagram: catholic_truth_official Pinterest: Catholic Truth SUPPORTMonthly by PatreonMonthly, Yearly, or One Time through PayPalOUR WEBSITE (Retreats, keynote talks, parish missions, articles and more)BOOK: Counterfeit Spirituality (Centering Prayer, Yoga, Reiki, Astrology, etc). Fr. Dominic and Francis are good names too. Astrologers do not claim to usurp Gods Providence. From Vedic astrology to KP system, and everything in between, including Birth chart, Numerology, Palmistry, Tarot Reading, Aura Reading, Vastu, Spiritual Healing, Online Horoscopes, Chinese Astrology, Western Astrology, Vedic Astrology, Zodiac readings (both Sun and Moon signs) and more . On the other hand, many people have been led to waste time and money, make bad choices, and avoid therapy and even avoid God and the Church because of astrology. What gives? For many [Catholics] entirely disbelieve the resurrection; many fortify themselves with the horoscope; many adhere to superstitious observances, and to omens, and auguries, and presages (Homilies on First Corinthians4:11 [A.D. 392]). Relevant Radio, Inc. Who else could it be other than demons? They worship the works of God, but disdain to worship God. As a Christian why associate with anything that is specifically condemned by the church and does not come from the holy spirit? . Instead of seeking a way to control the uncontrollable, have Faith in the One who created us, loves us, and will care for us for eternity. Of course, for Christians, this was not permitted to be used as a way of foretelling the future. "Astronomy is a science that studies everything outside of the earth's atmosphere, such as planets, stars, asteroids, galaxies, and the properties and relationships of those celestial bodies.. And if astrologers were honest with themselves, theyd see that they enjoy having power over their clients and being the priest who tells their clients what the stars hold for them. But then, other things might start to happen as well. Now, ancient man believed very strongly that these heavenly bodies, on the evidence of the moon, which they could see quite clearly, had an influence over the human body. Cy Kellett: The Catholic Church teaches against the use of horoscopes and other such fortune-telling practices such as astrology, palm reading, clairvoyance, ouija boards, and mediums because they attempt to take the place of God. Traditional Catholicism does represent something which is socially more stable. Catholic Church. A Catholic Perspective on Astrology by John Hanretty According to the Merriam-Webster dictionary, astrology is "the divination of the supposed influences of the stars and planets on human affairs and terrestrial events by their positions and aspects." SubscribeStart your Register subscription today. What I like to call liturgical astrology is something much better that is absolutely secure, and will be always helpful, and cannot mislead you, and will also lead you to heavenly things through the skies. This alone should give people pause when they want to know what their stars hold for them. Thats his [inaudible 00:00:16:14]. Its because of Sagittarius. Not then by art but by chance would he speak truly (Confessions7:6:810 [A.D. 400]). But we are superior to Fate, and instead of wandering demons, we have learned to know one Lord, who wanders not (ibid., 9). Instead of relying upon God, the aficionado of astrology kneels before the altar of astrology not an enviable place or position. But the star-peepers feign that those creatures, of God created, darken and trouble the earth, and are hurtful; whereas all creatures of God are good, and by God created only for good, though mankind makes them evil, by abusing them. Cy Kellett: Are you going to tell me any of my saints? I really appreciate you sharing my saints with me. Fr. Fr. More than anything, help Zack out, our video guy. In the context of a unique life, it is a useful tool to explore the disposition and character of a person, so that better choices can be made for their own good and the good of others.. [1] Support for it grew again in the West during the Renaissance. Despair is the biggest danger, though. Take it from me, stay away from it. Do not be deceived. with gratitude for the opportunity to do so. Is using them for that purpose wrong? Hugh Barbour: Ive never seen an astrology book or reading that tells someone they habitually lie, that theyre lazy, that they cheat, and so on. [T]hose who overstep the borders, making the words of Scripture [And God said, Let there be lights in the firmament of the heavens . Thats in the Catechism. But what similarity is there of these [constellations] with the likeness of animals, or what community of nature are regards conduct and energy, that one should allege that a person born in Leo should be irascible [like a lion] and that one born in Virgo moderate [like a virgin] or one born in Cancer wicked [like a crab]? (Refutation of All Heresies4:37 [A.D. 228]). Not anymore. While God can and often does bless us through things that we may read, see, hear, or encounter, it is vital to remember that the source of the blessing is God and He is using our experience to communicate with us. This is a major sticking point for Protestants, for Jesus is the only One who can forgive sins by His grace. This week, I want to start out by reading a little bit to you from the Catechism of the Catholic Church, what the church has to say about spooky things. . On the other hand, many people have been led to waste time and money, make bad choices, and avoid therapy and even avoid God and the Church because of astrology. Its for each one of us to meditate in our hearts what our lips are singing or saying. This underpinned a system in which everythingpeople, the world, the universewas understood to be interconnected, and astrology co-existed happily with religion, magic and science. Fr. 17:16, 21:35, 23:4; Jer. Relevant Radio is a 501(c)3 nonprofit organization. The apocalypse is full of signs. No. Fr. Relying on such a prediction could easily bring disaster. There is a difference. That really does help to grow the podcast. . Cy Kellett: While the modern church disavows horoscopes, the past reveals that church leaders views on astrology and horoscopes have differed over time. Telling them the dangers about that medium astrology stuff. But four centuries ago, the idea of a heliocentric solar system was so controversial that the Catholic Church classified it as a heresy, and warned the Italian astronomer Galileo Galilei to abandon it. The Church is wrong and Im holier and smarter than anyone they can produce who says differently! If the Church has identified a certain set of behaviors as sinful, only a remarkable fool would say, Dont worry about it! All Rights Reserved |. Everybody that sits in the church praying the Divine Office, like my abbey, were sitting there doing the Matins and Lauds. Its my birthday, but its also the seventh day before calends. [16][17] The friar Laurens Pignon (c. 13681449)[18] similarly rejected all forms of divination and determinism, including by the stars, in his 1411 Contre les Devineurs. June 25th. In the context of a unique life, it is a useful tool to explore the disposition and character of a person, so that better choices can be made for their own good and the good of others. Seeking truth is a noble undertaking for all moral people. Its just that they were mistaken about the interpretation of the effects of the planets on us, at least to some degree they were. The work of salvation is done by Him. Fr. No one else. Fr. Cy Kellett: Like Taurus, its in the throat, and they have different things assigned. Of which the scriptures say that when he calls them, they say, Here I am. And so, no. Hugh Barbour: The history of salvation does not begin with us, with our merits, our abilities, and our structures. So there you are. Church leaders routinely consulted astrologers, who themselves were overwhelmingly members of the clergy, when trying to plan important church ceremonies. We observe among the arts also some professions liable to the charge of idolatry. One instance, "Endowed with 'a spiritual and immortal' soul, the human person is 'the only creature on earth that God has willed for its own sake.' From his conception, he is destined for eternal beatitude." (1703) we dont want to give any hint that his love is not enough for us or that we want to take care of things on our own and not rely on him as our father. Is this part of Gods plan to make us subject to a bunch of mindless rocks floating trillions of miles away? Hugh Barbour: When a teen and young adult, I was the youngest of 5 and lived at home. They are inanimate objects and Gods plan for our happiness is not dependent on anything outside of God, His children, and our free will to follow Him. We have it all right there in the churchs liturgy. And so consequently, the appearance of things in the heavens is not precisely the way they actually relate to us, because it looks to us like the sun is going around us, because the distance so great and our speed is so great. The scriptures are not embarrassed by this, and they dont think that it has anything to do with new age or whatnot. Most certainly they did. Cy Kellett: Your enemy the devil prowls around. Stars, planets and other celestial objects projecting unknown, non-scientific effects on us, dont. Among other things, astrologers could advise on the best time to take a journey or harvest a crop, diagnose and prescribe for physical or mental illnesses, and predict natural disasters. People should develop the practice of celebrating their guardian angels on their birthday, and teach the children to do that. They wouldnt be listening anyway. Be warned! Patrick joked, The kind of blessing that you and I get from the star that we call the sun is we get sunlight and Vitamin D and sunburns if youre out in the sun too long. Fr. She was with child and wailed aloud in pain as she labored to give. Astrology, fortune-telling, tarot cards, and the like are no replacement for Gods providence. Texts from antiquity were rediscovered in the Arabic world, and then spread into Europe by the 11th century. And then youve got the Bishop Dominick and the priest Francis in Vietnam. Hugh Barbour: The church doesnt use astrology the way astrologers do, although she evaluates morally. How about using astrology as a means of learning more about oneself? Im afraid if I say it, my mother will scold will later when she listens to this. You never know. You might find out God loves you. Imagine the kind of wishy-washy deity in which astrologists and their fans believe. This visionof selectively dismantling the interiors of European cathedrals, one architrave at a time, in order to transform them into finely tuned scientific observatoriesis extraordinary, as if,. Jesus said, my words are spirit and life. John Hanretty serves as a Digital Media Producer for Relevant Radio. However, we do covet a message each day. You have to pick which god you are going to follow. [30], Astrology saw a popular revival starting in the 19th century, as part of a general revival of spiritualism and, later, New Age philosophy,[31]:239249 and through the influence of mass media such as newspaper horoscopes. This is the result of our parents following astrology for many years, Better late than never You can read more of his daily articles at relevantradio.com and on the Relevant Radio app. You tell people pray for 30 minutes every day. Sign up for 6 Free IssuesTry us out with a free trial subscription. I got deceived by someone who I thought I trusted and was led to a woman who owned her own hair salon and started counseling me and doing some playing card showing me who I am. God isnt speaking through astrologers. Your abode to every form of online astrology consultation. Had a bad day? To whom then must we make an answer firstto the heretics or to the astrologers? We need your financial support. St. Alphonsus says, if you have your natal chart drawn from your birth time and all that, thats not gravely wrong. They also hold both legs tightly together, which explains the name of this zodiac sign. Cy Kellett: Fr. [inaudible 00:18:17], thats a nice sounding name. . Okay, so-. I know God will give me a pass on this one!, Modern astrologers and their followers tend to be hostile to Christianity. Thats where they came from, those three wise men. Astrology, fortune-telling, tarot cards, and the like are no replacement for Gods providence. Call down all you Scorpios. But no, consider our Lord chose to have his own birth announced by this miraculous star that was sought by the Persians, who we know, the Magi from the East, the Caldeans, the Persians, we know that theyre the first ones to draw a map of the heavens with all the constellations and whatnot, and with the North Star and all that. . He must therefore speak falsely, or if truly, then, looking into the same figures he must not speak the same things. Hugh Barbour: Now, I dont believe in luck. Thus, it wasnt church condemnation that doomed horoscopes to be a novelty in the back pages of a newspaper. [21], Renaissance scholars often practised astrology to pay for their research into other subjects. I hope you find that message not to be a message of criticism for those who are seeking to find messages in places like astrology and whatnot, but a message of hope and love that God does have a message for you each day. Fr. I am going to speak up about this stuff. I agree with this new age saying things like the universe, the divine etc I am like, the universe? Through all the scriptures, our Lord even says that therell be great signs in the heavens, and so on. Hugh Barbour: Hello and welcome to Focus, the Catholic answers podcast for living, understanding, and explaining the Catholic faith.
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